Corona and Spahn’s candidacy for chancellor

What do you need to become chancellor? If you take the 15 years under Angela Merkel as a yardstick, then it occasionally helps to hover over things and to remain approximate. Your potential successor, Health Minister Jens Spahn (CDU), is still in the process of empathizing with this role. In the Bundestag, he sells the bumpy vaccination start in Germany in statesmanlike manner as a European success – but with far-reaching commitments he likes to leave a back door open.

It was the same with the latest edition of “Maischberger: die Woche”. The moderator wants to know whether the promise of vaccinations will still apply to everyone in the summer. Yes, says Spahn, but only “as of today” because the approval for the vaccines from Astra-Zeneca and Johnson & Johnson is still pending. “As of today” was also the formulation on Deutschlandfunk, with which Spahn half-heartedly ruled out his candidacy for chancellor. Traumatized Eintracht Frankfurt fans will be reminded of Coach Niko Kovac’s “Stand now” before he switched to FC Bayern.

But there is one thing that Spahn is clear about. “I gave my word in the Bundestag: In this pandemic there will be no compulsory vaccination.” He is a great fan of debates, but doubts that “acceptance will grow if we resort to such a means.” against the demand of CSU boss Markus Söder, who can show similar popularity ratings as Spahn and could become his fiercest competitor for the Union’s candidacy for chancellor in the next few months.

Risks and side effects disappear in the small print

And Armin Laschet, Friedrich Merz and Norbert Röttgen? Nobody trusts the three candidates for the CDU party chairmanship as a chancellor, not even Maischberger’s guests. “None of the three really convince me,” says cabaret artist Urban Priol, whereby Merz is “a lot of fun from a cabaret point of view”, “preferably with Christian Lindner”. With Röttgen as CDU leader, Priol would probably not have had this fun, as the former Federal Environment Minister has expressed clear reservations about a coalition with the FDP. The deputy “Welt” editor-in-chief Robin Alexander considers this approach to be a “huge mistake”, even if Röttgen gets “applause from left-wing cabaret” for it.

But away from party political skirmishes and towards the big questions. Did the EU and Germany not order enough vaccine? Did you order from the wrong manufacturers? Why are the UK, Israel and Bahrain vaccinating faster than Germany? And who is responsible for the chaos? Melanie Amann, head of the “Spiegel” capital office, takes Spahn to duty. As Minister of Health, he was politically responsible: “If something goes wrong at Deutsche Bahn, I also complain to the conductor.”

She compares Spahn with “changing drug advertising”, you have to read the small print first for risks and side effects. He understands full-bodied promises, but remains vague about the details, such as the question of how the two billion for the EU should be distributed among the member states. Amann receives support from his journalist colleague Alexander, who is outraged by Spahn’s appearance in the Bundestag: The health minister had “built a huge cardboard comrade there and, annoyingly, got through to parliament.”

Spahn had a long day: a night conference with the Chancellor, an early telephone interview with Deutschlandfunk, at noon the government declaration in the Bundestag. After extra time and a penalty shoot-out in the DFB Cup, it is midnight until Spahn sits with Maischberger and has to grapple with well-known allegations. Germany has secured enough vaccine, including the first approved by Biontech, he assures. The early start of vaccination in Great Britain and Bahrain was only possible due to an emergency approval. The EU deliberately decided against this step, also to ensure confidence in the vaccine.

But if you could not have saved lives with an earlier vaccination, Maischberger asks. Spahn does not agree to that, because “the death toll that we are complaining about today has to do with the situation 14 days ago.” Vaccination is “the way out” of the pandemic, but one would not have the restrictions even with more vaccine can do without. “Israel and Great Britain are in full lockdown, even though they vaccinated more than we did.”

Spahn: “I’ve gotten used to one thing: excluding things.”

Spahn does not dare to make a prognosis regarding the question of what these gloomy prospects mean for the corona rules in Germany, but it does not need them either. In view of the high number of infections and deaths and the incalculable risk of an even more contagious virus mutation, it should be clear to everyone that tightening rather than easing is pending. Right from the start, people were in the mood for “that winter will be hard. And winter lasts until March. ”On the question of company closures, Spahn initially said succinctly“ We are discussing with employers and unions ”and then, in response to Maischberger’s repeated inquiries, tellingly:“ I have given up one thing: excluding things. ”

Apropos exclude and “as of today”: Maischberger still wants to know what it would mean for his own career plans if he didn’t get vaccinated by the summer. “We are in a pandemic of the century”, that is his focus and he is “not about me”. The dispute over the direction of the CDU is “still there under the pandemic” and he has a good memory of how people treated each other before the pandemic. For the future of the party, Spahn believes it is essential “that we not only appoint the chancellor, but also that a chancellorship grows out of it.” If that is not stated in a statesmanlike way.

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“maischberger.die woche”: Spahn is preparing for a longer lockdown

Updated January 14, 2021, 6:33 am

  • The vaccination policy of the Federal Minister of Health is the central topic in Sandra Maischberger’s panel discussion on Wednesday evening.
  • Journalist Melanie Amann accuses Jens Spahn of “throwing smoke candles”.
  • Political scientist Christian Hacke fears: Trump supporters will chase the new US president.

A criticism

of Fabian Busch

After the sensational loss of FC Bayern in the DFB Cup, Sandra Maischberger and her guests had to work hard on Wednesday evening to get the television audience to stick with it.

At least Maischberger has it Jens Spahn a very promising guest: The vaccinations against the coronavirus have barely started in Germany when criticism rises.

Because there is too little vaccine, the Federal Minister of Health has to listen to the accusation that he screwed up the vaccination start.

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These are the guests

Robin Kelly: The Democratic US Congressman did the Storming the Capitol by radical Trump supporters a week ago experienced first hand and is briefly connected from Washington.

She explains why her party is one new impeachment procedure against the US president, who is about to leave office anyway: “We don’t want him to ever be able to run again.”

Christian Hacke: The political scientist also speaks out in favor of the impeachment of Trump: “A president who looks like that radicalized un- and anti-democratic – there it has to be. “

Melanie Amann: The head of the capital city office of “Spiegel” accuses Health Minister Spahn of making the slow one Vaccination start too positive Dar: “For me it seems like a walking drug advertisement: Read the small print for risks and side effects.”

Robin Alexander: The deputy editor-in-chief of the daily newspaper “Die Welt” shows Understanding for Bavaria’s Prime Minister Markus Söder (CSU), who proposed a corona vaccination for nursing professions: “If someone says I want to care for old people, but I don’t want to be vaccinated against Corona – I find that personally problematic.”

Urban Priol: That is just typical Söder, the cabaret artist from Aschaffenburg declines: “Of course he also has to distract from the fact that in Bavaria the numbers in the old people’s and nursing homes are not great are.”

Jens Spahn: The Federal Minister of Health (CDU) speaks out against compulsory vaccination for carers. That could Damage confidence in the vaccine. In addition, it is not yet known whether vaccinated people are less infectious. “As long as we have not clarified that, a lot of debates are idle.”

That is the moment of the evening

There is one question that should worry many people right now: How long do we have to stay in the withstand second lockdown? There is a vague answer to that this evening – if not a pleasant one.

The Chancellor had already indicated that Easing the contact restrictions until Easter is difficult could be. And that is also the message that the audience read between the lines of Jens Spahn that evening.

He said from the start that winter would be hard – and the winter goes until the end of Marchsays Spahn. “We won’t be able to lift all restrictions and restrictions on February 1st. That is very obvious. They will have to be extended.”

This is the speech duel of the evening

The television audience gets a real argument unfortunately not required. Instead, Sandra Maischberger tries personally to lure the Federal Minister of Health out of the reserve.

Jens Spahn defends the way of the European Union, which, unlike Great Britain, did not want to give the corona vaccine an earlier emergency approval and is therefore now lagging behind in vaccination. “In the medium term, when it comes to trust in the vaccine, proper approval is the way to go,” said Spahn.

Maischberger does not want to be satisfied with that. “Early vaccination saves lives – doesn’t it?” She asks pointedly. Spahn is visibly annoyed. His message on this show should be obvious: Everything is going well. Sufficient vaccine had been ordered, it was just an “initial shortage”. And where there is already vaccination, it works fine.

After Spahn’s departure from the studio, this depiction calls journalist Melanie Amann back on the scene. She breaks with a “golden Maischberger rule” and throws the guest a critical sentence: Spahn only threw smoke candles, Amann is annoyed: “We vaccinate much later than other countries, we vaccinate much less than other countries, we have not ordered enough vaccine or too little vaccine. And they The situation in the nursing homes is catastrophic.”

That’s the result

There remains a broadcast very limited informational value: Jens Spahn repeats what he said that day in the Bundestag. Also on the question of who will be running for the this Saturday CDU-Vorsitz could decide, the commentators do not dare to answer.

The The situation in the party is extremely diffuse, thinks “Welt” journalist Robin Alexander. Candidate Norbert Röttgen, however, has blocked his chances by declaring the FDP not suitable for a coalition. “I think Norbert Röttgen made a super campaign – but it went to his head.”

So there is only one of this evening anxious look into the future: Because of the corona lockdown, which will probably remain with us for a while. And because of the prospects in the USA: Political scientist Christian Hacke believes that a dangerous political situation is brewing there.

The storm on the Capitol may only be the beginning. “For me it is not impossible that things are going to get a lot worse in the next few months will. There has never been a presidency like Biden’s future, where he is hunted almost every day by Trump and his supporters. ”

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TV review “Sandra Maischberger”: A pre-Christmas decision

MIn the meantime, in this pandemic, we citizens have got used to a body not provided for in the Basic Law called the Prime Minister’s Conference with the Federal Chancellor. This is reminiscent of the endlessly long EU summit in Brussels, the only thing missing is the state cars, mostly made by German manufacturers, that drive up to the conference room. Nowadays it takes place virtually, but despite the meticulous preparation by 16 state chancelleries and one federal chancellery, it takes almost as long. For the reporting journalists, this is a time of waiting. Finally, a sixteen-page resolution came out that must be a pre-Christmas feast for the friends of bureaucratic articulation.

“We as hosts determine the dynamics of the pandemic”

Ms. Maischberger’s guests certainly did not belong to this rather rare species. However, the Prime Minister from Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania, Manuela Schwesig (SPD), was there as an interview guest, and she had decided on the paper. There the authors deal with a central question: How can we reduce our social contacts in order to interrupt the infection dynamics of the past few weeks? Dirk Brockmann conveyed why this is of central importance. He heads the research group “Epidemiological Modeling of Infectious Diseases” at the Robert Koch Institute (RKI). The physicist is a sober person who tries to depict the behavior of all of us in models. It is about a fundamental insight, which he formulated as follows: “We as hosts determine the pandemic dynamics.” That sounds trivial, but it is not. Brockmann can develop scenarios to describe the infection dynamics under changing conditions. That’s a lot, but this research area still has its inevitable limits. In a later interview, Cihan Çelik described her as follows: So far there has been “little evidence and little evidence that really helps us”, except “to reduce contacts. But how do we get there? ”The Darmstadt pulmonologist has been working on this subject for months. As a doctor, he must have taken all the precautionary measures, but he was infected a few weeks ago.


Der Arzt Cihan Çelik
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Image: WDR / Max Kohr

Here you can read the interview with the doctor about his own illness.

Politics is dealing with a fundamental contradiction. Although the extensive prevention of social contacts reduces the infection dynamics, the social and economic costs of such a policy increase. The decision of the evening looked accordingly. There we citizens read lots of appeals and recommendations, but these alternate with a need for regulation that is sometimes reminiscent of real satire. For example, it is mandatory to wear a mask in parking lots, although nobody has probably been infected there so far. If a citizen happens to have his balcony over such a parking lot, will he also have to wear a mask there in the future?

It is a mystery why German politicians have not also dealt with the problem of infection from frozen products that has just been discussed in China. At least the government in Beijing has now acquitted the suspected pork knuckle from Bremen. At the same time, the federal and state governments have recognized the legal complications of a ban on the sale of fireworks, but have come up with a new regulation. Now “the use of pyrotechnics is prohibited in busy squares and streets in order to avoid larger groups.” The local authorities should determine the affected squares and streets. ”If the municipalities should implement this by ordinance before New Year’s Eve, some meet maybe in the back streets. And when is a street even considered busy? But according to the resolution, the conference of transport ministers wants to deal with the school bus problem. According to well-informed circles, there are usually more than the ten people who are allowed to spend the festive season together this year. Some are said to be even younger than fourteen, which in turn is not counted at the Christmas feast.

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Cabaret artist Monika Gruber defends the farmers


The cabaret artist Monika Gruber, daughter of a Bavarian cattle farmer
Image: dpa

The stigmatization of farmers as complete idiots, polluters and animal abusers is annoying – and is usually undertaken by people who cannot distinguish a harrow from a roller. An outcry.

KDo you have the feeling that in the early morning after a brief reading of the newspaper you feel the irrepressible urge to bring your after-work beer forward? So around 7:30 a.m.? I always feel the same when the editorial teams of Maybrit Illner, Sandra Maischberger or Anne Will have come up with nothing better than to exhume Jutta Ditfurth, who could always be hired as a celibacy booster at the Catholic Church.

After the first sweeping blows from Ditfurth, I feel the urge to throw my TV out of the window. Only the thought of the purchase price and the sad look that Mr. Frei, the TV retailer I trust, would give me if I had to confess that I had shattered his masterpiece on my bluebell tree because of an aging eco-extremist, keeps me from doing it. Instead, my hand feels almost automatically to the right in the house bar and lands on the gin bottle.

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Maischberger – split looks different – media

“Maischberger – the week” sends Christian Lindner and Karl Lauterbach in the dispute over the right corona strategy in the ring – and they remain surprisingly nice to each other, despite differences of opinion.

For some, it is going too fast, for others it cannot be going fast enough – that is how Markus Söder summed up the climate of debate in Germany in view of the decision to relax the corona measures. Sandra Maischberger even speaks of a “divided” society about the well-rehearsed Söder-O-Ton, and one wonders in the meantime whether every contradiction in public discourse really deserves this name.

Be that as it may, given the alleged division, Maischberger has invited two guests to her program who, according to her, are “emblematic of these two poles”: Karl Lauterbach, SPD health expert and professor in the field of epidemiology, and Christian Lindner, chairwoman of the Free Democrats. Both have in common that, given their current talk show presence, it would not come as a surprise if they had set up their own camp beds in the public law studios. Perhaps they have actually agreed a bit in night-long debates – or at least been fairer to deal with.

Because this evening both show that contrary views do not necessarily have to end in the opinion boxing match, in which in the end the winner is the one who screamed louder. Of course Lauterbach, who has repeatedly criticized the premature easing in the past few days, sticks to his stance: When asked whether Wednesday’s easing decisions were a bad day for Germany, he first replied: Yes, at least “im All in all “, later he calls it a” dangerous day “. The country now needs “luck”, Wednesday’s decisions are not so much a tentative advance, but rather “an experiment”. The discipline among people has weakened, the easing would reinforce this feeling of false security.

For Lindner, however, it was a “good day”. The easing was correct and responsible, people had internalized the handling of hygiene and distance rules, which is why it was now time to allow greater freedom and to limit future measures regionally. In addition, there are now more intensive beds available.

Here Lauterbach contradicts: “The intensive care beds do not matter.” Although these are to be welcomed, they would be of little help to the older risk groups should they become infected with the virus: 95 percent of the cases that come from nursing homes and require ventilation, die in the event of an infection, intensive care beds or not. He also does not want to follow Markus Söder’s words that the virus is now “under control”: This is only the case if the citizens have sufficiently good masks available, a proper app for contact tracking and more extensive tests.

Lindner now emphasizes that although he has “very great respect” for Lauterbach’s considerations – he still advises “not only to look at Italy” (here he may have misunderstood because nobody spoke of Italy), but also to Sweden . Maischberger now asks whether the Swedish way, i.e. personal responsibility instead of restrictions, is a better way. It would be “better knowledgeable”, says Lindner, to say in retrospect which way would have been the right one, but the easing could have come earlier if it had been up to him. In the current phase, one is now approaching the Swedish way. “And that’s wrong,” Lauterbach interjects, only to add a polite “sorry, I didn’t want to interrupt you”.

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Lindner now points out again that people had learned how to deal with the virus, which is why, a “second thought” that in the current phase one can and should also consider the economic and social consequences of the restrictions. When he wants to carry out a “third thought”, the moderator interrupts him: “If you say a third one, we will lose the thread.” “But then Mr. Lauterbach can intervene even better,” says Lindner. Alright, Lauterbach says with a laugh, Lindner has already “supplied enough material” with the first two thoughts and one almost thinks that one mumbling “you have” in the mumble before “enough”.

Lauterbach now goes a long way: In Sweden, the numbers are far worse than in Germany, despite the sparse population, they correspond to “20,000 deaths in Germany”, so the model cannot be a role model, even in the current phase. He did not want café visits to be at the expense of people in retirement homes who might have to fear for their lives because of the relaxation. At the same time, the opening concepts for gastronomy that have now been decided do not offer any prospect of profit for the operators, one must honestly say that. And the hygiene concept of the Bundesliga is not worth its name. All in all, the opening concepts are premature and not well thought out – and at the same time confirm all those who thought the coronavirus was a flu wave that had now been fully survived. However, there would be hope if people acted more sensibly and responsibly “than one or the other political decision”.

And that was it with the “split” that evening. Both Lindner and Lauterbach agree below that a scrapping premium is a wrong way for the automotive industry. Instead, Lindner would like broad support for the entire middle class, promotion and investment in innovation. “Saving alone” doesn’t help. When it comes to the app and nationwide tests, they both demand the same things, and agree that the lockdown was – at least initially – the right way. When both of them then chorused about the lack of masks, the airtime was over. But it can be assumed that they will be able to continue the conversation in the next talk show soon.

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Briefly at “Maischberger”: tips from the big brother – media

The Austrian chancellor presents himself on the talk show as a man with the master plan. But then the moderator asks about the Corona hotspot Ischgl.

Malfunctions are rarely a reason to be happy. For the Austrian Chancellor Sebastian Kurz, exactly one of these came almost as ordered on Wednesday evening: Kurz was added to “Maischberger”, initially treated hospitable, if not even revered, by the moderator: “Austria is going ahead” and “What can we do with Austria learn? – Questions to the Federal Chancellor Sebastian Kurz “it said in the introductory story, in relation to the gradual easing of the local Corona curfew, which was after all one of the strictest in Europe.

After a trio of German journalists had chatted a little (as is often the case with this slightly self-referential “press club” touch, unfortunately the renewed Maischberger concept still does not work), Kurz had the stage for about ten minutes yourself. Markus Söder, who was supposed to join the group as the second politician, had canceled at short notice, the coalition committee in the Chancellery again took longer.

As always, the man with the master plan acted briefly. The obviously successful measures in Austria are currently not only giving him top popularity figures there. He formulates his answers like a big brother who has some experience ahead of his smaller one, in this case a week ahead of lockdown, and now passes on what he has learned: Austria will gradually “start up” – one of the most used verbs these days, as if the company a Windows computer – “nice and careful, nice and careful”, first with the small shops, then with the big ones, then with the catering trade and the schools.

Kurz warns, however, that the virus has not “disappeared”, it is only “not as widespread” – a wording that is likely to put experts at the forehead, unfortunately one that came up with Dirk Brockmann from the Robert Koch Institute only to the show when the Austrian chancellor was already gone. In short, otherwise known for his love of strong borders, he also campaigned for German summer tourism in his country, saying that he was “very optimistic”. If everything in both countries continues to work as before, you can “drive down” the limits – the picture of the Windows computer is back.

Kurz is annoyed by the “Blame Game”

Since Kurz speaks of tourism, Sandra Maischberger cannot avoid asking about the ski resort Ischgl, which is known throughout Europe as a corona hotspot. Experts from Iceland had already defined this as a “cluster” on March 5 through the European early warning system after numerous tourists from there had returned to the island with a corona infection. However, the ski operation continued until March 15, which led to thousands of other infections. Therefore, Austrian and international media accuse not only Tyrolean local politicians, but also the government in Vienna, of having concealed the incidents against their better knowledge. The Austrian Consumer Protection Association is currently initiating a class action lawsuit against the Tyrolean authorities and the Republic of Austria.

Maischberger wants to know from Kurz whether “greed for health” has gone in the Ischgl case. Kurz says that any misconduct there, if there was one, would of course be punished, but is then annoyed by the supposed “blame game”, ie mutual blame that is being exchanged worldwide regarding the virus: in Italy, they are “blamed” Chinese “for the outbreak, Italian ski tourists in Ischgl, in Germany they now want to be infected while on vacation in Austria. That “may all be right”, but “only moderately help us”.

Then he cheerfully went into blaming: he had heard of “studies” according to which the virus had actually spread from Europe to Munich – presumably he was not referring to a study, but to a US Twitter hypothesis -american virus geneticist Trevor Bedford. He did not know whether these “studies” were correct, but he also did not blame anyone in Munich because the pandemic was raging worldwide, there was not “one guilty party” – as if Maischberger had said so.

And now we come to the breakdown in the evening: Maischberger asks how to do it ski-Operation after the Corona Falls became known in Ischgl because I was able to continue for so long – and at that moment it falls Send-Operation, unfortunately, like a Windows computer. When he resumed work, Kurz again pointed out that crimes would of course be cleared up and how quickly his country had reacted, which is why they are in a better position today than other countries: “So we cannot have done everything wrong”.

And after a final question on European solidarity in financial matters (a clear no to euro bonds), the chancellor has already survived the interview. He closes with a smile and says: “Thank you very much and all the best in Germany”.

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