Since the World Cup victory, the national team’s image value has plummeted, as a survey shows. The alienation from the elf also reaches a new dimension. It doesn’t just have to do with defeat on the pitch.
Thomas Müller seems open to a return to the German national soccer team. “As I said, none of us resigned,” said the 2014 world champion after his FC Bayern 1-1 draw against Werder Bremen on Saturday on Sky. But he was “not of the opinion that we should discuss players”. After the 6-0 defeat of the DFB selection last Tuesday in Spain “we should discuss other things”. His “main focus” is also “on the club”.
Like his Munich team-mate Jérôme Boateng and Dortmund’s Mats Hummels, Müller was sorted out by national coach Joachim Löw in March 2019. The 60-year-old justifies the decision with the change in personnel, so far he has not deviated from his course. The return of at least parts of the trio was repeatedly called for from different sides – not least after the Spain game by several experts.
Müller said on Saturday: “Of course you suffer with your teammates in the club and your former national team colleagues as well as the spectators.” The fans “longed for things to go well again,” said the 31-year-old. “At the moment there is a lot of negativity around the topic, it really hurts.” In the Nations League in Seville, the national team lost as much on Tuesday as it has not since 1931.
The national team’s crisis allegedly does not burden the work at Bayern Munich. “The boys are professionals enough,” said sports director Hasan Salihamidzic on Saturday in the Sky interview before the game with a view of the Munich national team. The training was good and there were talks with the returning players. “I’m not worried that it won’t continue the way it ended in Dortmund,” emphasized Salihamidzic. The national team should analyze what happened in Seville. “We do our work here exactly as we did it before.”
Salihamidzic did not confirm reports about the supposedly imminent departure of Jérôme Boateng from Bayern next summer. “We all know that Jérôme has an ongoing contract until June 30, 2021,” said Salihamidzic. “We will meet with him and his management at a reasonable time and make a fair decision for everyone.” The former national player’s contract was “not at all our topic at the moment”.
Boateng (32) himself had said that he was “surprised” by the customer that his contract should not be extended beyond the summer of 2021. Coach Hansi Flick had expressed his great appreciation for the central defender on Friday. “He’s a player who has shown outstanding performance, he’s won the triple for the second time. Little need to be said about its qualities, ”he said. “Jérôme certainly knows how I see the whole thing and how I feel about it.”
FC Bayern meanwhile have to fear defender Lucas Hernández’s failure. The world champion hit the ground after a duel in a 1-1 draw against Bremen and was replaced after 19 minutes. He had problems with his hip and will be examined on Sunday, said coach Flick. “We have to wait and see.” For Hernández, who signed for 80 million euros last year, a long absence would be particularly bitter, as he is now a regular at the Munich team as a left-back after a difficult first season.
Alphonso Davies is missing as another left-back injured. Flick hopes that in Wednesday’s Champions League game against RB Salzburg midfielder Corentin Tolisso and right-back Bouna Sarr can return after their muscular problems. “We’ll have to wait and see,” said Flick.
Rudi Völler sees Jürgen Klopp as the future national coach. “It depends on Jürgen Klopp: He is one of the few coaches who decide for themselves when they want to become national coach,” said the former DFB team boss and sports director of Bundesliga club Bayer Leverkusen Sky90: “I do believe that Jogi Löw can do it for a while. But at some point it will be Jürgen Klopp.”
Klopp’s contract with English champions FC Liverpool runs until 2024. He is currently not available as a possible successor to Löw, he said. Löw is under massive criticism after the 6-0 debacle in the Nations League against Spain.
Völler took the national coach under protection. Loew had to “put up with” criticism of his personnel policy, for example. Nevertheless, he is still the right one. “I think he wants to show everyone again,” said Völler, who led the DFB-Elf to the final at the 2002 World Cup.
Völler avoided a clear position in the debate about a possible return campaign for Rio world champions Thomas Müller, Jerome Boateng and Mats Hummels. “You have to be open to saying: What makes sense?”, He said, but: “I don’t think all three are necessary either.”
Jet black day or more? After the 6-0 defeat against Spain, it’s not about Müller or Hummels, but about the basics.
Nobody can now seriously claim that they had a premonition that the German national team would be dismembered in such a defamatory manner by a team like Spain without Thomas Müller and Mats Hummels. With the development of the last few months, this team is heading straight for this historic bankruptcy. The last time a German team lost that much was in 1931 (Austria).
There are games that you, as the person responsible, would like to take out of the rating, just as a long jumper doesn’t have to let a completely failed attempt count. That is why national coach Joachim Loew spoke of a “pitch black day”. “It was all bad in every respect.” The only problem is: he and his team will not be able to make the next attempt until next March. The defeat will gnaw the DFB team to the core during the long international break.
Not becoming fundamental is difficult for another reason. Team manager Oliver Bierhoff became very fundamental a few days ago. He lamented the dark clouds brought in from outside the national team, the resentment. The wealthy team deserved a leap of faith. To put it bluntly: Bierhoff asked the vote of confidence. After the game against Spain you can say: his feeling for the right moment was better.
And world champion coach Joachim Löw had a better feeling for his team. On Tuesday evening he stated: “Today we have seen that we are not as far as we had hoped.” It is now “our duty that we question all of this and also question ourselves”. Two years ago, Löw reacted almost word for word to the World Cup elimination in Russia. The impression arises that after the error analysis at that time, one has not made any decisive progress.
At that time, Löw admitted to having exaggerated the “almost arrogant” pursuit of dominance and ball possession football, and announced a change of strategy. With a speedy, goal-oriented soccer ball, the short-term disorder in the opponent should be exploited to the maximum after the ball has been captured. Good approaches to this strategy could be seen in the 3-2 win in the Netherlands a year and a half ago.
The fact that the team could no longer be identified with a clearly identifiable idea and recently tormented itself from draw to draw has damaged the appeal of the national team. The guru-like appearance of Löw, who declared current disappointments to be secondary and part of a long-term master plan, could not help. The big idea is currently not within reach. What plan the DFB team had against Spain will remain one of the great mysteries of football history. It had nothing to do with possession football or quick shift play.
The questions raised by the game go far beyond Müller and Hummels. The question of trust asked by Bierhoff now gets a completely different twist. The punch line of the evening was that the German selection was presented by a team that celebrated possession football like the Löw-Elf in their best days, refined with rapid switching moments. Although their opponent was concerned with supposed safety instead of possession and high pressing, the Spaniards tore one gap after the other with their excellent passing game. It was beautiful to look at.
Nobody wants to look anymore: The German national team goes down 6-0 in Spain.
In 2014 the DFB-Elf experienced an exhilarating night in the World Cup semi-finals. A good six years later, the game in Spain ends with a 6-0 disaster. This is also related to the event of the century in Brazil.
IWhen it comes to success, it is often said that you make the biggest mistakes. Because what has worked is held on for too long, and most importantly, it is no longer questioned why something was successful. The self-deception surrounding the German national soccer team goes hand in hand with the most sensational victory the team has achieved since the 1954 World Cup. In the semifinals of the 2014 World Cup, Germany defeated World Cup hosts Brazil 7-1. A few days later, the fourth world title was celebrated across the country. Since then it’s been going downhill. Because some questions could no longer be asked at all.
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The 2014 World Cup is glorified in Germany by that event of the century in the semi-finals. Forgotten was the extremely shaky 2-1 win after extra time in the round of 16 against Algeria. However, these two games show the dilemma in which the German national team was and still is. If the national coach’s schedule works, everything is fine. If the schedule doesn’t work, there will be performances like the one in the round of 16.
Et was not white smoke that rose on Wednesday, there will not be a new national coach anytime soon. Instead, the German Football Association (DFB) and its national team felt an uncomfortable feeling of hot air. You could hardly call it any other way, if less than 24 hours after the humiliation of Seville the coming to terms with your central question had already been shelved.
Contrary to what is reported in some media, it does not yet seem clear that Joachim Löw will continue to enjoy the confidence to lead the national team into a successful future. At least the error analysis and possible conclusions should be discussed in a larger group. As a reminder: The semifinals should be at the EM in the coming year, at least, that’s how much performance principle it can be at the DFB. That was the appearance the management personnel tried to create.
But who should still believe in it when even a performance the likes of which a German elf has not seen for more than 90 years has no further consequences than sleeping over it – and then continuing the program? A serious examination of the again substantially changed situation would be the least that one can expect from the DFB and also from Löw. On the other hand, if you look back on the process of coming to terms with the World Cup disaster of 2018, it might not make much difference whether you issue the clean bill of health immediately or later.
At the end of an international match period that began with Bierhoff’s image of the “dark cloud”, which he only related to the atmospheric, the German team is also sporty like a naked man in a storm, as a fair weather project with a fair weather trainer who works in large lines thinks, but – once again – found no answer to what was happening on the square. Barely two and a half years after the preliminary round in Russia, the 2014 world champion is at a new low point and facing agonizing questions. Whether it was given away two and a half years – and whether it can go on like this.
After the game, the calls for the outcast world champions became loud again. That was obvious in view of the speechlessness and defenselessness with which the team and coach had endured this defeat. But it would be a mistake to believe that the presence of Müller, Hummels or Boateng alone could give this team the inner cohesion it needs right away.
Regardless of the question of what condition the three will be in next spring and summer: After everything that Löw has built up in terms of structure and hierarchy, a return would hardly be possible without losing something: the convictions of the younger generation, your own Credibility, or both. The national team is caught in the entanglements that the association got into by holding on to Löw after the 2018 World Cup. And it is impossible to see how a liberation can still be achieved with him. A small cut would hardly be possible without the large one.
The disaster in Seville is not only Löw’s defeat, he cannot change the structural imbalance in the staff. But never before has it been more clear than on Tuesday evening that he does not give any impulses when they are needed most – a world of difference to Luis Enrique, who had hired his team so precisely that the Germans staggered through the arena like a dazed bull . For Löw it had to be a bitter punchline that the long-standing role model gave him this stab – at a moment when Spain, it was thought, had long since ceased to exist.
Ein the final against Spain – Joachim Löw would certainly have pleased this prospect for the international match year 2020 at the beginning of the twelve months. After all, a European championship was planned at the time. And a place in the final would have been a good thing after the disaster of the 2018 World Cup. Much turned out differently. The EM was postponed to the next summer, Corona not only messed up the football schedule. Nevertheless, there is now a “final” against Spain.
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However, it does not take place at the major continental tournament, but only as part of the Nations League, a competition that is sometimes seen as very superfluous in terms of sport and as useful in terms of economy, especially in this time of the pandemic. There is also no title to be won in the game this Tuesday (8.45 p.m. in the FAZ Liveticker for the Nations League and on ZDF), the final game of the calendar year is only about first place in the group, which entitles you to participate in the semi-finals . That should take place in October 2021, so only after the EM.
Löw has made no secret of the fact that his focus is on the EM several times. After the 3-1 home win on Saturday in Leipzig over the Ukraine and the parallel mistake by the Spaniards at 1-1 in Switzerland, the German selection goes into the last group game of the campaign as leaders. A draw in Seville on Tuesday would be enough to successfully defend first place. But that is not Löw’s idea. “Our aim is to go to Spain and say we want to win the game and not defend anything. We’re not playing on one point in Spain, ”he said.
There are bold tones that can be heard from the national coach at the end of a year in which many things did not go as planned. After the sovereign European Championship qualification, the virus caused a long break. When things went on for the national team after almost ten months, there was unrest. Playful leadership against Spain in the first leg, in Switzerland, in the test against Turkey and a wild 3: 3 in the second duel with Switzerland with many defensive weaknesses raised doubts about the development in the right direction of the German team, which was rejuvenated a year and a half ago.
On the other hand, as the prospect of first place in the Nations League group shows, the results were overall not quite as bad as the debate seemed. In the past two years there was only one defeat, in September 2019 in a 2: 4 against the defeat in the European Championship qualification in Hamburg. So now Spain. “My maxim when preparing for a game is always to tackle things in such a way that you have a chance of winning,” said the brave Löw, who won a friendly 1-0 in Spain in 2014, but in competitive games against the Iberians is winless.
The captain tackles the task as self-confidently as the national coach. “We are first in the table and can travel to Spain with a broad chest,” said Manuel Neuer, who with his 96th appearance will be the German goalkeeper with the most international matches. “It will be a duel on equal terms. We’re going to Spain with a good feeling. “Toni Kroos will return to the starting XI after his yellow card suspension against Ukraine, and Löw was committed to that:” Toni will definitely come back. Sure, it’s important. It will begin. ”According to Löw, Ilkay Gündogan will also start on Tuesday.
Defender Antonio Rüdiger, who has to sit out after his second yellow card, is missing. Robin Koch may move into the last line of defense. The former Freiburg resident, who moved to Leeds United in England in the summer, appeared somewhat surprisingly in defensive midfield against Ukraine and fulfilled his task to the full satisfaction of the national coach. “I’m very impressed with Robin, you can say very enthusiastic since he’s been with us,” said Löw. “He’s a player who quickly adapts to tasks. He is already an integral part of us. “
This also applies to the players who scored in the twelfth minute on Saturday after Roman Yaremchuk fell behind: Leroy Sané equalized (23rd minute), Timo Werner scored the other two goals for victory in his former Leipzig stadium (33rd and 64.). The FC Chelsea striker sees positive development in the national team towards the end of the year. “We are always safer at the back, even if the post has saved us. If we work on it, it can be very good, ”he said. Löw also saw it this way: “The goals were played very well. They were good approaches from us. “
Two other players also received an asterisk from the national coach. Leon Goretzka prepared the first two goals. “It was a great game by Leon Goretzka,” said Löw. “He’s in very, very good shape. You can tell the power and strength of him. He was an asset and present throughout the game. ”The national coach also liked Philipp Max, who made his debut in a 1-0 friendly against the Czechs during the week. “He convinced us in these games. He is moving forward a lot. He’s a dangerous full-back. I’m absolutely satisfied with him. ”Loew is apparently ready for the“ final ”in Spain.
BUndestrainer Joachim Löw just disappeared happily through the revolving door of the team hotel when Oliver Bierhoff made a fiery plea for more respect and support for the national team. In a fifteen-minute incendiary speech, the director of the German Football Association (DFB) gestured visibly agitated and vented his anger at what he saw as unjustified criticism in times of rebuilding.
“It hurts a lot how the young players are treated. I notice that it hovers like a dark cloud over the team, ”said Bierhoff after his arrival in Leipzig. In the cabin he sees “tired faces”, he feels “the tension and the frustration”. One could “criticize Jogi and me as responsible, but the young players have earned our trust – and they will pay it back”. Before the upcoming international triple pack, Bierhoff expressly defended himself against the accusation of insufficient criticism, and he also wanted “no pity”. For him it is “much more about the tonality, about the mood that is generally transported into it”, emphasized the 52-year-old.
Bierhoff admitted that the national team “deeply disappointed” the fans and “gambled away sympathies”. “It’s just a fact that we are currently not Germany’s favorite child and not the campfire,” said the European champion from 1996. But: “The association has done an incredible job in many areas. There are many things that don’t come forward under that cloud. If we all make a little wind together that the cloud goes away, then I would be happy. “
Löw also wants to spark a lot of wind with his team, which has been severely weakened, at the end of an actually lost year. They wanted to “put a sporting exclamation mark at the end of this difficult year with good and successful games,” said Löw, despite all personnel and defense concerns. “We are on a good way. But we still have a long way to go if we want to be a serious competitor for everyone again at the European Championships, ”said Löw in the“ Sportbuzzer ”interview.
In this way, Philipp Max (PSV Eindhoven), Felix Uduokhai (FC Augsburg) and Ridle Baku (VfL Wolfsburg) could make their debut against the Czech Republic on Wednesday (8.45 p.m. in the FAZ live ticker for international matches and on RTL). “We don’t invite anyone we wouldn’t trust to make it,” said Löw, who will probably muster a team that can still be called B-Elf with goodwill.
The regulars Manuel Neuer, Leon Goretzka, Serge Gnabry, Leroy Sane, Timo Werner, Toni Kroos and Matthias Ginter will only arrive on Thursday for the two Nations League games against Ukraine (November 14) and three days later in Spain. With two successes, the DFB selection would have secured group victory and qualified for the final tournament in October 2021. “We want to win clearly against Ukraine,” said Bierhoff. The goal is “to be able to take full risk in Spain”.
But the tide of goals must be stopped. In the “triple header” in October there were seven goals against Turkey, Ukraine and Switzerland. “It is our job to remedy this deficit as quickly as possible,” said Ginter in the “Kicker” interview. To bring back Mats Hummels or Jerome Boateng, Löw ruled out again. “We basically decided not to nominate these players, nothing has changed that now,” he told the “kicker” – and also included Thomas Müller. You cannot “undo that now,” said Löw.
On the other hand, he left a back door open to Mario Götze. “We don’t lose sight of him either, of course,” said the 60-year-old. The last of 63 international matches (17 goals) of the World Cup hero in 2014 was almost three years ago. However, Götze’s chances are not likely to be that great, Löw trusts his current squad. “A team needs consistency, automatism, security, blind understanding among each other. A team has to grow, the processes have to develop, ”said Löw. Statements that Bierhoff also liked.
FNational soccer coach Joachim Löw has rated Mario Götze’s move to PSV Eindhoven as the right decision and believes that the 2014 World Cup hero can return to the national team. “We don’t lose sight of him either,” said the 60-year-old in an interview with the “Sportbuzzer” Internet portal (Monday). Over the past few weeks, he has had repeated contact with the 28-year-old, who has kept him up to date.
Götze was last in the squad around three years ago and was substituted on in his 63rd international match in a 2-2 draw against France on November 14, 2017. At the World Cup in Brazil he scored the goal of the 1-0 win against Argentina in the final and scored the selection of the German Football Association (DFB) for the fourth World Cup title. At his presentation in Eindhoven Götze had confirmed his ambitions for a comeback in the Löw team. “I definitely want to go back to the national team,” he said.
In the 3-0 win of his club on Sunday in the Eredivisie against Willem II Tilburg, Götze scored his second goal in the Dutch championship with the goal to make it 2-0 and already scored in the Europa League. Löw is surprised by the good form of the offensive player. “That was not to be expected”, said the national coach, “he looks very fresh and very agile, the joy can be seen in him. He needs that for his light-footedness, for his variability. “
In Löw’s opinion, the World Cup final goal was a burden for Götze. “He had a rucksack on through the 2014 goal, which must have been a heavy burden,” he said. In Germany everything has always focused on him. With the move to the Netherlands “he made exactly the right decision for himself – namely to dare a new start outside of the Bundesliga presentation plate,” said the national coach.
Former world champions Jérôme Boateng, Mats Hummels and Thomas Müller are still no longer an issue for the national team for Löw, despite the strong performances in their clubs. “We basically decided not to nominate these players, nothing has changed that now,” quoted the “kicker” (Monday) Löw. The national coach had informed the trio in March 2019 that they would no longer plan with him in the future. But because all three have been in very good shape for weeks, there have recently been increasing calls for a return – also because the DFB team had recently failed to convince defensively.
However, Löw left a small back door open with a view to the European championship planned for summer 2021. “If a completely new situation arises for us in the next year due to the failure of key players, I will assess that accordingly and think about alternative scenarios,” he said. Götze himself told the “Bild” newspaper that he would be happy about a comeback. “The European Championship is a big dream for me, especially because I wasn’t there for the first time at the last World Cup tournament in 2018. My hunger for the title has grown even bigger. ”And DFB Director Oliver Bierhoff affirmed:“ When he’s in good shape, Mario Götze always has a chance to get back into the national team. ”
Löw sees a lot of work ahead of the EM. “We are on a good way. But we still have a long way to go if we want to be a serious competitor for everyone at the European Championships, ”he told the“ Sportbuzzer ”. “One must not forget that we were at the bottom at the end of 2018 and how long it took other nations to get out of a valley,” said the 60-year-old before the games against the Czech Republic, Ukraine and Spain at the end of the difficult international match year 2020.
England, Spain, Italy or Holland would have needed four to eight years for their upheaval. In comparison, the national team have “already taken a very big step” two years after the World Cup disaster in Russia. Despite the recent criticism of the defensive behavior and nine goals conceded in five games, Löw sees the development as positive. “That makes me confident because we have already shown really good approaches in the way we want to play. Our players deserve our belief in them. And we do. No ifs or buts, ”said Löw.
After four draws in five games in the difficult Corona year, Löw is hoping for a satisfactory end in terms of results. However, setbacks are always possible with the young team. “Sure, victories are important now. Of course we still make a lot of mistakes. Making mistakes is important in drawing the right lessons. In addition to our established pillars like Manuel Neuer and Toni Kroos, we have hungry young players with huge potential, ”said Löw.
After the test against the Czech Republic on Wednesday and the conclusion in the Nations League on Saturday in Leipzig as well as the game in Seville against Spain, the DFB-Elf is going into a four-month winter break. The next international matches are not due again until the end of March, when the World Cup qualification starts with another three-pack. In the EM, postponed by a year due to the corona pandemic, the Löw selection will meet France, Portugal and Hungary or Iceland in Munich in June.
JRegardless of accusations of arrogance and debates on tactics, oachim Löw consistently continues on his way. Against Switzerland, “his” national soccer team is supposed to turn their first win of the year into an upward trend. “We are convinced of our plan, we will go through with it,” announced the long-term national coach one day before the game on Tuesday (8.45 pm in the FAZ live ticker for the Nations League and on ARD) in Cologne. Unlike the complicated restart after the Corona break in the fourth Nations League game of the season, Löw would like to see the right result in addition to further development. That is why he demands of his staff around Toni Kroos, who is celebrating his 100th international match, “courage and the right offensive accents”.
Despite the recent 2: 1 in Ukraine, experts like Bastian Schweinsteiger and some media believe that the head coach is on the wrong track with his personnel and tactical decisions. Löw did not want to accuse the critics like his former captain Schweinsteiger of a lack of respect. “There are completely different opinions in football. Our relationship is absolutely intact, ”said the 60-year-old. But he will not change his well-thought-out line. “I wouldn’t call myself thin-skinned and arrogant. I name things the way I feel, ”said Löw clearly on Monday.
Löw doesn’t want to change much against Switzerland. But an increase should be recognizable: “I expect more precision in our game.” His players want to “do things better that haven’t gone so well,” as Bayern professional Leon Goretzka said. Unlike many Löw critics, the Munich-based man referred to the adversities that the coach and team would have to deal with after the corona lockdown. You have “ridiculously little” time to even rehearse tactical systems and subtleties, explained Goretzka.
For the third international match within seven days, Löw first has to see whether he can completely line up the winners of Kiev. On Monday there were still small question marks. Lukas Klostermann from Leipzig had to be examined for knee problems. His club colleague Marcel Halstenberg complained of muscular problems in the adductor area. And Julian Draxler from Paris Saint-Germain has Achilles tendon problems. But attacker Timo Werner is ready for the starting line-up again after a cold. The attacker from Chelsea FC only came on a short-term basis during the win in Kiev.
The game is a special one for Real Madrid star Kroos: As the 15th German player, he is accepted into the exclusive Club of Hundreds. “A nice coincidence,” said Löw on the anniversary in Cologne, where Kroos still has a residence. “It’s a player who never shows any signs of nervousness,” said Löw, referring explicitly to the most important game in Kroos’ career, the World Cup final in Rio de Janeiro in summer 2014. “Everyone was tense. Toni is calm personified. He rests in himself. He has so much self-confidence in his ability that he radiates it. No matter what the opponent is called. “
Since the 2010 World Cup, Kroos has also known the discussions about the ups and downs in the national team. The now 30-year-old also needed some time to gain a permanent place at Löw. After the World Cup title and four Champions League triumphs, he once announced – but without reaping reproaches of arrogance: “In this footballer’s life, nobody will manage that I have self-doubt.” That Kroos still has the European Championship victory in his collection of titles missing, could still be a trump card for his teammates, noted Goretzka on Monday.
The players and Löw know that in the event of a setback against Switzerland, the measures aimed at the EM will again be questioned more critically. The fans in front of the TV screens – the stadium in Cologne will be empty due to the high Corona numbers – simply want to see attractive and successful football from the German flagship team. Löw does not see the recently significantly reduced television ratings as a warning signal: “Between the tournaments it was always evident that interest in the national team – especially in friendly matches – waned a bit.” At the next tournament, the team will be “again the most important thing in the To be country ”.
The Swiss selection, which is characterized by Bundesliga players, is already fighting against relegation from the A-League. Spain (7 points) leads group 4 ahead of Germany (5), Ukraine (3) and the Swiss (1). Löw is expecting the neighbors in memory of the 1-1 draw in the first leg in Basel “cheeky and courageous” and warned: “There will be a lot in store for us.”