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FSV approaches Europe
RB Leipzig suffered another setback in the Bundesliga in the fight for the Champions League ranks. The Saxons lost 0:3 (0:1) against FSV Mainz 05 on Saturday and, after two league defeats in a row, are two points behind fourth-placed SC Freiburg. Leipzig was lucky that Freiburg only played 1-1 (0-0) against Hertha BSC. Third place in the table behind Borussia Dortmund and FC Bayern was consolidated by 1. FC Union Berlin, who won 3-0 (0-0) against VfB Stuttgart, where Bruno Labbadia is said to be on the verge of being eliminated according to “Bild” information.
Marcus Ingvartsen (9th) put FSV in the lead in Leipzig – and put RB in trouble. So far this season, the Saxons had not won after falling behind, and that remained the case. After the break, Ludovic Ajorque (57′) increased Mainz’ lead with a dream goal before Dominik Kohr (67′) was also successful. The 05ers are only one point away from the European Cup places.
Sport Wirtz shines and scores: Leverkusen ends the Schalke series
FC Schalke 04 suffered a setback in the relegation battle against Bayern conquerors Bayer Leverkusen and lost for the first time in the second half of the season. Coach Thomas Reis’ team lost 3-0 (0-0) to their Western rivals for the outstanding Florian Wirtz.
Schalke, who had not lost eight times in a row, remain in the relegation zone. Leverkusen, on the other hand, confirmed their very good shape 13 days after the 2-1 win over FC Bayern. Jeremie Frimpong (50th minute), Wirtz (61st) and Sardar Azmoun (90th + 2) scored the goals for coach Xabi Alonso’s team against strong but offensively harmless Schalke – Moussa Diaby shone with two assists. With their fourth win in a row, Leverkusen continued their race to catch up in the European Cup in front of 62,271 spectators in the Gelsenkirchen Arena.
Sport Bitter for bottom Stuttgart: 0: 3 at home power Union Berlin
VfB Stuttgart was unable to end its away trauma at home power 1. FC Union Berlin and continues to stagger towards relegation. Despite a convincing first half, the bottom of the table ultimately suffered a bitter 0:3 (0:0) defeat at the Champions League contenders from Köpenick.
In front of 22,012 spectators in the sold-out An der Alten Försterei stadium, goalgetter Sheraldo Becker (51st minute) gave the hosts the lead with his eighth goal of the season. Kevin Behrens (65th) and an own goal by former Union pro Genki Haraguchi (68th) ensured the final score, with which the Irons consolidated their third place.
Sport Ducksch to Füllkrug: The top scorers in the Bundesliga
13 Marvin Ducksch (Werder Bremen) – 8 goals
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13 Sheraldo Becker (Union Berlin) – 8 Tore
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13 Jeremie Frimpong (Bayer Leverkusen) – 8 goals
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13 Julian Brandt (BVB) – 8 Tore
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13 Moussa Diaby (Bayer Leverkusen) – 8 Tore
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13 Michael Gregoritsch (SC Freiburg) – 8 Tore
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13 Jonas Hofmann (Gladbach) – 8 goals
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9 Mergin Berisha (FC Augsburg) – 9 Tore
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9 Marcus Ingvartsen (Mainz 05) – 9 goals
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9 Karim Onisiwo (Mainz 05) – 9 Tore
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9 Serge Gnabry (Bayern) – 9 goals
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7 Dodi Lukébakio (Hertha BSC) – 10 Tore
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7 Eric Maxim Choupo-Moting (FC Bayern) – 10 Tore
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6 Jamal Musiala (FC Bayern) – 11 Tore
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3 Randal Kolo Muani (Eintracht Frankfurt) – 12 goals
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3 Marcus Thuram (Borussia Monchengladbach) – 12 goals
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3 Christopher Nkunku (RB Leipzig) – 12 goals
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2 Vincenzo Grifo (SC Freiburg) – 13 Tore
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1 Niclas Fullkrug (Werder Bremen) – 15 goals
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Sport Berisha and Nmecha meet: draw between Wolfsburg and Augsburg
Even the ninth goal of the season by new national player Mergim Berisha was not enough for FC Augsburg to win their first away win in six months. In the 2-2 (2-0) win at VfL Wolfsburg, the Augsburgers gave up a 2-0 lead at the break on Saturday. After Wolfsburg’s captain Maximilian Arnold scored an early own goal (2nd minute), Bersiha made it 2-0 for the guests in the 32nd minute.
But in the closing stages, the hosts came back again. First Luca Waldschmidt scored the first goal for VfL (85′), then Wolfsburg’s national team debutant Felix Nmecha scored the deserved equalizer for Wolfsburg (90’+6′) with the last action of the game.
Sport Musiala keeps up with Bellingham: Most valuable players in the Bundesliga
30 Youssoufa Moukoko | Borussia Dortmund | 30 million €
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28 Marcus Thuram | Borussia Monchengladbach | €32 million
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28 Evan Ndicka | Eintracht Frankfurt | Market value: €32 million
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23 Niklas Süle | Borussia Dortmund | €35 million
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23 Benjamin Pavard | Bayern Munich | €35 million
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23 Karim Adeyemi | Borussia Dortmund | 35 Mio. €
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23 Gregor Kobel | Borussia Dortmund | 35 mio. €
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23 Jeremy Frimpong | Bayer Leverkusen | €35 million
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19 Dani Olmo | RB Leipzig | 40 million €
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19 Julian Brandt | Borussia Dortmund | 40 Mio. €
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19 Nico Schlotterbeck | Borussia Dortmund 40 million €
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19 Dominik Szoboszlai | RB Leipzig | €40 million
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18 Sadio Mane | FC Bayern | 45 Mio. €
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16 Lucas Hernández | FC Bayern | 50 Mio. €
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16 Moussa Diaby | Bayer Leverkusen | 50 Mio. €
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15 Serge Gnabry | Bayern Munich | €55 million
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13 João Cancelo | FC Bayern | 60 Mio. €
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13 Dayot Upamecano | FC Bayern | 60 Mio. €
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10 Leon Goretzka | Bayern Munich | €65 million
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10 Kingsley Coman | FC Bayern | 65 Mio. €
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10 Randal Kolo Muani | Eintracht Frankfurt | €65 million
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8 Leroy Sane | FCBayern | Market value: 70 Mio. €
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8 Alphonso Davies | Bayern Munich | €70 million
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6 Matthijs de Ligt | FC Bayern | 75 million. €
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6 If Guardiol | RB Leipzig | 75 Mio. €
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4 Joshua Kimmich | Bayern Munich | €80 million
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4 Christopher Nkunku | RB Leipzig | €80 million
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3 Florian Wirtz | Bayer Leverkusen | €85 million
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2 Jamal Musial | FC Bayern | 110 Mio. €
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1 Jude Bellingham | Borussia Dortmund | 120 Mio. €
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Sport Hertha, threatened with relegation, scored 1-1 at SC Freiburg
Hertha BSC ended its series of bankruptcies away from home in the relegation battle and drew 1-1 (0-0) at SC Freiburg. In front of 34,700 spectators in Breisgau, the team coached by Sandro Schwarz scored their first point away from home since mid-September thanks to Jessic Ngankam’s equalizer (77th minute). Eight times in a row, Hertha lost away from home. Although the Berliners remain on the relegation rank, unlike their competitors VfB Stuttgart and FC Schalke 04, they still scored a point.
Vincenzo Grifo initially gave Freiburg the lead with a free kick (52′) and thus scored Baden’s 999th Bundesliga goal. In the end, the Breisgauers missed the hoped-for success of coach Christian Streich for their ambitions for an international starting place before the double pack against FC Bayern Munich. On Tuesday, Freiburg in Munich is all about getting into the DFB Cup semi-finals. Four days later, the Munich star ensemble will be guests in Freiburg for the Bundesliga duel.
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Any investors and other association constructs can also be discussed elsewhere
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Great, I’m happy ch for Freiburg and Union Berlin. Hopefully they’ll make it to the Champions League. Oil sheiks and oligarchs take over football clubs and associations are founded to market unhealthy sugar water. The fact that Freiburg and Union as registered clubs (!), of which there are only four in the league, manage to establish themselves at the top with great and meticulous work fills me with joy. The classic virtues of football are still alive there.
A club like Union, which has had an investor investor for many years, can hardly be associated with classic football virtues. Or is an investor ok after all?
On the subject:
I’m slowly seeing Schwarz that we’ll play in the CL next year. If that doesn’t work out, hopefully Rose will leave.
Haha, the old fairy tale about investors at Union. And then comment with the coat of arms so snooty with half knowledge about Union.
Kölmel saved us the license more than 20 (!!) years ago with support in the single-digit millions, in return he received a share of the TV income for decades. You can write what you want here, but Kölmel hasn’t pumped any investments into the club for years, instead he defers the TV income from the Bundesliga years.
So if you look at it completely with the microscope: Yes, Union is an investor club, overwhelming financial injections in the seven-digit range made the visionary Kölmel guess more than 20 years ago that the club will possibly be in the top 4 of the Bundesliga by 2023, so that he can get a return on investment with a return of 12900%, the rascal. Year after year, he contributes €0 so that the Unioner transfer offensive can continue to play for championships. Maybe UEFA should investigate.
Well, first of all, it wasn’t a single-digit million sum that he gave at the time, and Kölmel also regularly invests in Union, incidentally also helped finance the stadium renovation and saved Union from bankruptcy several times.
So Union is an investor club, and without Kölmel the club might not even exist anymore who knows.
So to pretend that Union is a fairytale old club that has worked hard and hard for itself while Leipzig gets everything blown in the A….. is just wrong.
Incidentally, in addition to Union, Kölmel has also invested in Leipzig and several other clubs in the east.
I would be interested in the list. How much money was it? How many times has the club been saved by him? Please substantiate with sources.
Union borrowed money from Kölmel and gave a percentage of the TV marketing as financial compensation. You can view loans as an investment, but in my opinion it is a huge difference to clubs that have (have) received money without real value or sell shares in the club (e.g. RB, TSG, WOB, B04)
And if you just take the 375 million to date as an example. of Hertha with the Peanuts of Kölmel, then one can say that the club had to work much harder than other clubs.
How else do you explain the marches of TSG and RBL through all leagues with greatly oversized budgets.
Isn’t it more difficult to be in third place with a budget in the lower third of the league? Or playing the round of 16 Euro League?
So please don’t be ridiculous, I could go on with this list forever.
According to everything you can read about it, back in 1998 it was 15 million. Yes, I know it was D Marks, but it wasn’t a single-digit sum.
Then he invested again in 2001 and then more times after that.
There are a few sources for this. It has been a topic in various sports programs a few times and you can also find many pages about it on the Internet.
As an example, I give an article in BZ from 2016 entitled “Michael Kölmel: So I gave Union a second life”, in which Kölmel gave an interview and confirmed these investments himself.
Here are a few quotes from that article:
“I gave Union a second life in 1998. Otherwise you would have filed for bankruptcy.”
“But they always counted on me. Union did not get the guarantee for the second division license in 2001 itself. I had to run again at the last second with an amount in the millions. There was a rupture. I was very pissed off and didn’t come to Berlin for a while.”
“when fans donated blood for financial rescue in 2004: In the phase of promotion to the second division in 2001, the money flowed from all sides. Nevertheless, the level of debt increased. This meant that a few years later everything was up and running again. Through the “Bleeding for Union” campaign, I got closer to the club again. I contributed to the granting of the license.”
“Ten million euros that I would actually get from Union have been permanently subordinated to me for years. That stays the same.”
Here is a quote from an article by RBLive:
“Among other things, he saved Union Berlin from bankruptcy twice.”
Here is a quote from the Berliner Kurier:
“Since he started in 1998 and his original loan of 15 million marks, Kölmel has saved the Köpenicker from bankruptcy several times”
These are just a few quotes that you can find quickly. There are of course many other sources.
But the quotes show that Union is an investor club that has received large amounts on several occasions and they also show that Union has probably done a really bad job for a long time and has always relied on the help of Kölmel.
And that clubs like RB Leipzig get money without value is absolute nonsense. RB Leipzig is one huge advertising space for Red Bull, the arena is named after Red Bull, you have shirt advertising, perimeter advertising and RB advertising everywhere else in the media. This is a large marketing chain and RB gets advertising for the investment. It’s the same with the other clubs you mentioned.
And yes, it may be that Hertha got more money from Windhorst and Union had to work a little harder than others, but you can also compare Union to a number of other clubs. Most other clubs don’t have a sponsor who keeps stepping in when you’re on the verge of bankruptcy and saving the club. As a result, Union ultimately has it easier than clubs that do not have such patrons.
Especially since the multiple million amounts, especially at that time, are not nothing either.
At the end of the day it stays the same without Kölmel, Union would probably not be where they are now, Union might not even exist anymore.
I’m sorry. Maybe I don’t like seeing it, but I still don’t see any sources as to why Union might be an investors’ association. Sources have never been shown except for a few articles that no one has ever read here, from those that have posted.
Your articles all relate to the period 1998-2001 and all describe the facts that are already known.
According to what you have now posted, the well-known 15 million marks (ergo 7.5 million euros) are from 1998 and then an ominous further 5 million marks or 2.5 million euros. Otherwise you wouldn’t get the 10 million that Union Kölmel owes. By the way, that was a negative business until today. Loan rescue or not. The money has to be paid back and we have partially assigned TV rights for it. And pushing back the repayment date by a couple of years, as the articles say, isn’t new money. I only repay debts later.
It is always suggested by a few users (with whatever intention) that Union would be an investor club. This then happens regularly after a good game or a transfer. This then puts this and that into perspective or questions it. However, it has not been explained to date, no source shown that linearly proves that the current success, a transfer made with any investors or constant cash flows from individuals in the last 10-20 years was made, as these do not exist.
On the contrary: newspaper articles that have already had their best days behind them, which report on events from 20-25 years ago, are frantically dug up.
– Union does not get money from people to buy players, pay their salaries or invest in infrastructure
– Players, salaries, infrastructure can only grow steadily with success
– In 1998, Union received a loan of 15 million Deutschmarks and apparently another 4-5 million Deutschmarks by 2001 (I have never read numbers like that, but took them out of your self-written report)
– In 2004, thousands of citizens of Union, Berliners, Brandenburgers and friends (probably also from Cologne) donated money to Union for the license
investor club? Should everyone answer themselves…
I named and quoted the articles. So why do you act like they don’t exist?
And as you should actually notice when reading my quotes, these articles refer to the period from 1998 to at least 2004, in which three major investments took place and ultimately up to the present time it is shown that Union Kölmel owes 10 million euros to this day, Kölmel keeps postponing the payment, which in turn helps Union again and again.
You can’t do the calculation that you’re doing now because the exact extent of his investments isn’t clear. And you can’t say whether the 10 million that Union still owes him is all or not.
And what does a self-written report mean? I copied the quotes from the respective articles and pasted them here.
And yes, I know that several people donated in 2004, but we don’t know exactly how much Kölmel gave. Since he had previously invested several millions, it must have been a large amount in 2004 as well.
At least Mal big enough for him to mention that he helped save the license.
And again from the sources I have shown at least three major investments. Three investments without the Union would not be where they are today. Insolvency was averted at least twice as a result.
I don’t know if you realize what bankruptcy can mean for a club. From point deductions to forced relegation to the complete dissolution of the club, everything is in there.
Union worked badly for years and was saved by money from a benefactor, that’s the way it is, even if you don’t want to admit it.
I just have to add my two cents: Why are you trying so hard to portray Union as an investor club? Do you know what an investor is in modern football? At Union one can rather speak of a lender. Yes, of course, Kölmel does not give money away and wants it back at some point + sum X for the risk. But that’s what my bank wants too. No shares or similar things were assigned here. Only the TV rights for a certain period of time, which probably represent the sum X mentioned above.
In addition, we are talking about investments or loans of almost 10 million (because of me 15 million) euros. That is a ridiculous amount in the current football business, which is no longer sufficient for the third division (for a candidate for promotion there).
I mean, you can debate this to death until you’re told, “Yeah, looking at it soooo, you’re a little bit right.” or you realize that you are fighting a losing battle here.
It’s almost like someone trying to tell me that the E rde is flat and at some point he runs out of arguments (it’s really like that, Flat Earthers only ever come up with 3-4 arguments and then this “It’s being covered up from above”). Anyway, so that he calms down, I take him to Holland and show him an absolutely flat piece of land with the comment: “yeah, the earth is flat here, so you’re right somewhere that the earth is at least partially flat.” . I don’t think you want to be that guy.
I’m trying not to present anything frantically here, especially since I didn’t even start this discussion here, I’ll just say what is fact and fact is just Union has a patron who has invested significant amounts of money in Union at least three times, possibly more often, which is why the association still exists. What’s so hard to grasp about that?
Without this money, which, as already mentioned, was no peanuts at the time, you would have had to file for bankruptcy twice and then you would probably have been out of the picture. Logically, this has influenced the entire development of the club.
1. FC Union was one of 11 privileged football clubs (10+ Dresden treated as such). Of these, 6 were later “promoted” again (BFC, Dresden, Magdeburg, FCV, Jena, Lok).
The BSG Motor Oberschöneweide got the team of the SG Union in 1951 and was integrated into the Oberliga without any sporting qualifications. Because the political center of the newly founded workers’ and farmers’ state would need two first division teams. That doesn’t look too stately to me.
The real iron ones were dissolved as successors to the SG Union in 1972. What adorns it today has nothing to do with it.
Over several stations, where clubs were repeatedly destroyed and new ones created from scratch, the team and playing rights (these were not mere renamings) came to 1. FC Union via intermediate stations such as SC Motor and TSC.
The numbers show that 1. FC Union was one of the privileged clubs. 16 out of 25 years as 1st FCU they were first class, while the “predecessors” only managed that in 3 out of 14 years. If 1. FC Union had been remote from the state, they would not have played this role. On the contrary, its task as a “civilian club” was to bind those who didn’t want to cheer the police/customs/MfS (Dynamo) and army (Vorwarts) to the regime anyway.
The constant player changes from Union to BFC are just as legendary as the state distance. There were a few in the men’s area (e.g. Lauck, Ksienczyk – although Lauck was only brought from Cottbus before), but also the other way around (Sträßer, Seier). A lot happened in the NW area. And since the ambitious BSGs of the surrounding area (Brandenburg, Babelsberg, Eisenhüttenstadt, Neubrandenburg, Cottbus …) could sing a song about the fact that Union did not differ in aggressiveness from other FCs.
If constructs in football are disgusting, then that must also apply to Union. More construct is hardly possible, even if it was a few years longer. And if investors are bad, then also at Union. Without Kölmel, Union would no longer exist.
It is therefore absolutely out of place, as happened in the first post, to present Union as an example of a successful club. Given this construct-investor history, that’s cute at best. If it’s a tradition, then please do it properly. Then it’s better to honestly start over with a shower.
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Leipzig rightly lost against Mainz and got off lightly. A 1:5 or 1:6 would also have been possible.
There are games like this, happened to others too (e.g. BVB – Lev 2:5, – Stuttgart 1:5, – Bochum 3:4 in the recent past). But the trend is sobering. As soon as a few assets like Schlager and Nkunku are out, the team seems completely unimaginative.
