Assault on the Capitol third hearing: Trump pressured Pence and other keys to the third hearing on the assault on the Capitol | Univision News Politics

The third hearing of the committee investigating the assault on the Capitol on January 6, 2021 focused on the pressure that then-President Donald Trump put on his Vice President, Mike Pence, so that he rejected the electoral count that day.

testified as witnesses Greg Jacob, Pence’s attorney, and retired federal judge Michael Luttig, who was an informal adviser to the then vice president.

The hearing focused largely on the strategy proposed by conservative law professor John Eastman, close to Trump, who was in some way the ideologue of the theory of that Pence refused to certify the electoral victory of Joe Biden and that the result could thus be annulled.

Pence presided over the certification as president of the Senate, did not give in to pressure from the president and on January 6, 2021 declared Biden the next president-elect, after the session of Congress interrupted by the mob of Trump supporters was resumed. Among other things, he shouted “hang Mike Pence!”

Shortly before, then-President Trump had told his enraged supporters at a rally outside the White House: “I hope Mike does the right thing. I hope he does. Because if Mike Pence does the right thing, we win the election: everything that The vice president has to do is send him back for recertification, and I become president, and you guys are the happiest people.”

Trump’s pressure on Pence

Investigators detailed Trump and Eastman’s intense pressure campaign against Pence to try to get him to overturn the election.

Jacob said Pence had that first instinct to seek advice, hinting that Trump’s “plan” to try to reverse the election was underway.

Pence would live for a few weeks under pressure, even public, by Trump so that when the day comes to certify the results already validated in the Electoral College, the vice president invalidates Biden’s victory.

The committee presented evidence that Trump was told his plan to nullify the 2020 election was illegal, but he still pressured his deputy in the White House.

Both Trump and Eastman knew the plan was illegal, according to testimony from Pence advisers. To the point that Eastman sought a presidential pardon after the riots because he was the ‘mastermind’ of the scheme to reverse a democratic election.

“We are fortunate for Mr. Pence’s courage on January 6,” said committee chairman Bennie Thompson, a Democrat.

“Thanks in part to Mike Pence, our democracy withstood Donald Trump’s scheme and the January 6 violence,” Thompson added.

Pence’s former chief of staff, Marc Short, told the committee (on video) that the vice president told Trump “many times” that he did not agree with the plan.

During and after the speech, Trump supporters, hundreds of whom were now marching on Capitol Hill, focused on Pence.

A video was played at the session in which Trump supporters were heard saying that Pence had “cavenged” (to the Democrats), and if he did, they were going to drag “politicians through the streets.”

When Pence and the senators were evacuated following the violent entry of Trump supporters to the Capitol, the videos presented said “take him out!” and a gallows could be seen in front of the Capitol to the “Hang Mike Pence!”

John Eastman, the operator in the shadows: “You are going to cause disturbances in the streets”

Eastman was operating ever closer to the president. The committee on Thursday played video testimony from Eric Herschmann, an attorney advising the former president, who said Eastman’s theory that a vice president could nullify an election was wrong.

Herschmann said that he warned Eastman: “You are going to cause disturbances in the streets.” in reference to the feeling of ridicule and dispossession that it would generate among the more than 70 million Americans who voted for Biden, who would feel that an already certified result was being ignored.

However, Eastman continued with his plan.

In separate video testimony, Trump campaign aide Jason Miller said other aides had told him they thought Eastman “was crazy.”

Witness Jacob testified that not even Eastman seemed to believe his own wild theories.

Eastman was subpoenaed by the committee, but repeatedly invoked his Fifth Amendment rights during his interview. He also filed a lawsuit to prevent the panel from obtaining his communications.



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